But what I love is every once in a while you come across that entrepreneur that just says, you know what? I think I'm going to be the exception, but I don't really care. What else am I going to do? Like, I love this, I'm passionate about it. I'm doing it anyway. So it's going to be what it's gonna be. That's the person I want to back, right? Because you just don't know.

And here's the reality as well. What I've come to realize, Josh, I've been you know, I started Zico 20 years ago. Now I have, you know, I think people would look at me and say, I made it right. I, I have a our firm has 500 million under management. Right. We're writing 20 to $30 million checks. I've probably helped raise $1 billion for our firm and other companies. We've had multiple exits. but the reality is, I still am an entrepreneur, right? My partner and I are trying to build a multibillion dollar asset management firm. And so what I was talking to him about recently is it takes what it takes.

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